Glamour conducted via Zoom, Jones was surprisingly candid about how she managed to achieve her success, and she talked all about why she recognizes the need to operate in the world as it is, instead of as it should be.I was devastated [when I was fired from Jive Records] and I would like to say that I had a brilliant plan, but I did not. When I was , I was in Los Angeles and my friend who worked at the magazine asked if I would meet with her company.